DNA : Etruscans Were From RUSSIA

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https://greekreporter.com/2024/08/16/dna-etruscans/

The Etruscans actually descended from pastoralists
(sheep herders) who moved into the region from the
steppes during the Late Neolithic and Bronze Age
from approximately 6,000 BC to 3,500 BC.

The enormous region of the steppes, in what is now
Hungary, the Ukraine, and Central Asia, is, of course,
part of the area where all Indo-European languages
originated. This is a fact which makes these new
DNA results even more perplexing—and almost
maddening—for linguists since language is almost
always a determinant of culture.

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Interesting.

The Etruscans were the first "big" culture in
Italy - and were highly advanced.

Once Rome came to power it kinda obliterated
them - in their way. The Etruscans were not
set up for large-scale warfare alas and got
squashed.

The Etruscan language made it SEEM kinda
local - but the new DNA study says this
was NOT their original language at all -
but they came more from the Ukraine area
and southern Russia. Clearly they found
a language more to their liking during
the journey.

Or maybe you're in the "Who gives a damn ?"
group ?

Human mind and thought ARE a product of
all that came before. If you don't know
your past you can't see your future.

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The Attics of Athens were Yovan (Ioanian) Scythians.
The Slavs and Celts both descend from the Scythians.

King David, had red hair, was Scythian.
The word Askenazi is cognate with Scythian

While Sparta ate wheat from Sicily, Athens ate from Scythia.
Alexander's dad grabbed Byzantium to choke off wheat to Athens.

Carpathian Celts took Delphi 2c BC then became the Galatians of the bible who
spoke Celtic until 7c. Blond blue-eyed Turks & Greeks from Asia Minor are
Galatians.

One thing about DNA: it doesn't prove direction. Just because A+B share DNA,
you don't know if A got it from B or B got it from A.

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Post by v***@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
The Attics of Athens were Yovan (Ioanian) Scythians.
The Slavs and Celts both descend from the Scythians.

"Influenced by" ... there were already lots of people
in Athens and today's Slavic states.

Post by v***@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
King David, had red hair, was Scythian.

Maybe, at least in part. The Scythians were bad-ass nomads.
No doubt there was some, um, interbreeding with Hebrews who
got in their way. However the Scythians were barely known
as such in Davids time, their big party was over the next
seven centuries.

Post by v***@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
The word Askenazi is cognate with Scythian
While Sparta ate wheat from Sicily, Athens ate from Scythia.
Alexander's dad grabbed Byzantium to choke off wheat to Athens.

Phillip never got there. He PLANNED a campaign, intent
on grabbing the heart of Persia beyond there, but his
assassination ended that. Alexander carried on the
plan later.

Post by v***@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
Carpathian Celts took Delphi 2c BC then became the Galatians of the bible who
spoke Celtic until 7c. Blond blue-eyed Turks & Greeks from Asia Minor are
Galatians.

Plenty of blondes in Macedon already - Alexander's soldiers
carried that trait all the way into Afghanistan. Again alas
that problem in determining the direction/timing of gene
flow. Sometimes well-documented, sometimes lost in the muddle.

Post by v***@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
One thing about DNA: it doesn't prove direction. Just because A+B share DNA,
you don't know if A got it from B or B got it from A.

Umm ... perhaps. However DNA tends to leave a "trail"
in its wake - just as Neanderthal DNA left a trail
through Europe and points east and Denisovian left
a trail through Tibet and out into the Pacific.

However finding that trail can require a LOT of testing,
The path of the Denisovian migration only came to light
quite recently.

IF we don't blow ourselves up, or all go bankrupt, I'm
gonna guess it'll only be maybe ten or fifteen years
before we CAN follow all those trails - enough data
will be in and timings can be narrowed-down as well.

Meanwhile we have to fill in with 'cultural artifacts'
like languages, writing systems and physical objects.

In ANY case ... there was a LOT of movement in and
around the Levant/Mesopotamia over the past 12,000
years. Who was who, from where, to where, why, to
what effects, became who ... we may never get all
that straight, if any 'straight' even exists. Don't
forget to throw in some Mongol/Indian/Chinese traders
and immigrants plus some Nubians. A proverbial
Gordian knot .......... everyone in that area is
related - DNA and culturally - to everyone else.
Push further into Europe proper and the number of
players decreases somewhat, but it's still a mess.

It's why all these pushes for "reparations" is just
ridiculous. Everybody invaded/enslaved/colonized/ravaged
and was invaded/enslaved/colonized/ravaged over and over
again over the past 12,000+ across the whole of Eurasia
and eventually beyond. Even "beyond", hey, who did the
proto-Inca's invade/murder/enslave in order to reach
their position ? Oh, the Spanish killed them ? Who
were The Spanish - even then it was two or three
kinda distinct groups, one from the Moslem invasion
of the south, who all got where they were by invading
and enslaving and worse .......